Make MPs accountable as public servants
That model of development has been the same for all of the so called 'civilised' countries or major powers...and it's how they operate now...nothing has really changed. As always, there are exceptions ...some Leaders from other countries seem exemplary when placed alongside some of our politicians.
What's the common thread? Corruption and greed. It always was and it always will be unless we get to grips with the cause and do something about it.
I know that many of you are pissed off with the system. We watch as governments here in the UK have consistently lied, swindled and cheated the public out of its collective wealth. Let me put that another way - the government spends our money - the working classes' money. Without the working classes there would be no wealth for the people at the top.
I know that a lot of you feel that there's no point in voting. Having seen the fiasco of recent votes, I can sympathise. Then we have the people that have the right to vote, were registered to vote and were still denied a vote through maladministation ... and the government didn't bother to extend the deadline for the vote so that they could be afforded their democratic right which is shameful, and I feel, illegal.
If we don't vote though, we'll always let the upper classes get away with shafting the working classes ... and if we don't vote, we'll never bring about the changes that we want to see in this country - or the balance of power that the masses deserve.
As working class people, we make the products that people buy - and we ourselves buy them if we can afford to. The same with services that are offered - we do the work but the profits go upward and, depending on the service provided, the workers are often paid a pittance for work that doesn't require formal qualifications - and in a lot of cases - even if formal qualifications are required.
The United Kingdom is a country ruled by the upper classes. We help to maintain the status quo because, in the main, we silently carry on with our lives; too busy working long hours and trying to make ends meet as we worry about how we're to pay the mortgage or afford the rent, pay for our food, our prescriptions for medicine, clothes and our various taxes.
Democracy seems to be constantly interfered with in various ways, everything from whether voting cards are issued to how they're counted, as well as altering the constituency boundaries. I'm sure that this wasn't the version of democracy that our ancestors risked or gave up their lives for. As a Veteran, I certainly didn't knowingly serve corrupt leaders ... but it seems that I, unwittingly and by default, did. We learn these harder lessons as we grow and explore the world around us for what it is.
That's the moaning out of the way - what do we actually do about it?
We can start by making MPs more accountable for their actions.
On 4/7/2013, someone wrote to the House of Commons Commission about MP's Job Descriptions:
Sent: 11 July 2013 09:22
Subject: Freedom of Information request - MP job description
Dear House of Commons Commission,
I would be interested to see the paperwork which would constitute an MP's
job description. All employees have a job description and they are held
accountable by the terms agreed.
In order to hold an MP to account one must first know what is reasonably
I look forward to your response.
A reply was sent out on 11/7/2019:
FOICOMMONS, House of Commons Commission 11 July 2013
Freedom of Information Request F13-354
Thank you for your request for information which is copied below.
You asked for information regarding MP's job descriptions.
The information you require is not held by the House of Commons. Members
of Parliament are not employees of the House of Commons but are deemed as
self-employed. For this reason, we would not hold paperwork on an MP’s job
However, the following document may be of interest to you, it gives
constituents the information they need on how to contact their MP and what
to expect when they do
The following information from the Parliamentary website may also be
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Sarah Price | IRIS Support Officer
I have since found an online document that states the following:
Annex 6: MP's generic job description (2001)
In 2001, the Senior Salaries Review Body published a "job description" for a Member of Parliament, which is set out below.
Represent, defend and promote national interests and further the needs and interests of constituents wherever possible.
1.Help furnish and maintain Government and Opposition so that the business of parliamentary democracy may proceed.
2.Monitor, stimulate and challenge the Executive in order to influence and where possible change government action in ways which are considered desirable.
3.Initiate, seek to amend and review legislation so as to help maintain a continually relevant and appropriate body of law.
4.Establish and maintain a range of contacts throughout the constituency, and proper knowledge of its characteristics, so as to identify and understand issues affecting it and, wherever possible, further the interests of the constituency generally.
5.Provide appropriate assistance to individual constituents, through using knowledge of local and national government agencies and institutions, to progress and where possible help resolve their problems.
6.Contribute to the formulation of party policy to ensure that it reflects views and national needs which are seen to be relevant and important.
7.Promote public understanding of party policies in the constituency, media and elsewhere to facilitate the achievement of party objectives.
Nature and scope
An MP's work may be seen under three broad headings. The first is his or her participation in activities designed to assist in the passage of legislation and hold the Executive to account. This is traditionally seen as the 'core' role of the parliamentarian. The second area is work in and for the constituency. This is in part representational; in part promoting or defending the interests of the constituency as a whole; and in part it is designed to help individual constituents in difficulty. The third part of the job is work in support of the party to which the Member belongs, and for which he/she was elected.
In the Chamber — An MP spends typically four days each week in the House. It is possible, at least in theory, to spend much of this time in the Chamber itself. But there is little doubt that the majority of Members spend significantly less time there than was typical in the past. This is in part because the Chamber is, generally speaking, perceived to be less significant in influencing affairs than it was 20 or 30 years ago; and also because the time available has been squeezed both by constituency matters and by the amount of work which Members spend in committee or in pursuing their political interests through other channels.
Members appear in the Chamber to speak rather than to listen. It is a forum for making a case but for most of the time has only a marginal effect on major decisions. Nevertheless, it can sometimes be the scene of events of dramatic importance which seize the attention of the electorate. Debates and question time are exacting tests for Ministers and are important in the parliamentary process but there are a number of other ways in which MPs can use the Chamber. For example there are adjournment debates at the end of each day and this provides a useful way of ventilating a constituency grievance, and persuading a Minister to act. Ten Minute Rule Bills are a useful device for generating attention for a particular issue although they are of limited value in getting legislation to the statute book. Twenty Private Members Bills are selected by ballot at the beginning of each session, and these also present to the successful Members an opportunity for pursuing a particular interest. There is, however, little chance of legislative success without government support.
In Committee — In addition to work in the Chamber itself an MP can contribute to the political process through Membership of either Select or Standing Committees. Select Committees, of which the most important is the Public Accounts Committee (PAC), are cross party bodies which can be highly effective in examining specific or general government policies in a relatively bi-partisan manner. Effective work on Select Committees requires background study, planning, devising and putting questions and checking the proceedings for publication. A great deal of reading is involved to do the job properly and it is often necessary to consult various interested parties. The chairmen of Select Committees are appointed by the committees themselves.
By contrast, Standing Committees consider legislation in detail prior to its being sent back to the Chamber. It is up to an MP whether a full contribution is made or not. In general terms, opposition MPs see little chance of major substantial changes to Bills in committee, although sometimes spectacular coups are achieved. The presence of government MPs is required usually just to vote and speaking is often discouraged because it delays proceedings. The Speaker has a list of MPs who act as Chairmen, which he/she compiles with the advice of party whips.
The allocation of MPs to committees is carried out by the Committee of Selection, by permission of the House, save for Select Committees established before 1979, where it is done by the whips. In practice, however, the influence of the whips over appointment to all committees, and particularly to the more important Select Committees, is considerable. Generally, although the work is not mandatory, there is an expectation of MPs being prepared to serve on committees, newer Members serving an apprenticeship through Membership of the less popular ones. The committee clerks provide help and advice on procedural matters but it takes some time and effort for an MP to accumulate sufficient working knowledge to serve as the real basis for effective committee performance.
There are, in addition to Select and Standing Committees, a number of party and multi-party committees on particular issues. These are of varying importance and effectiveness.
There is no research support available to MPs specifically for committee work, other than the House of Commons Library, although committees as a whole can and do commission specific research.
Range of Members' practices
In practice, some Members, although perhaps only a relatively small minority, seek to influence events by participating to the fullest extent in the Chamber itself.
Others prefer to work through Select Committees or the party backbench committees. But MPs can 'make their mark' in the political arena by other means. Many have a specific area of interest or expertise which they bring to the House and through this become seen by all parties as respected experts in some specific area. They are often able to reinforce his role through the media. Others — particularly the longer serving and more experienced — play an important role in reinforcing their party's activities, for example during particularly difficult debates Some, usually because of their specific expertise can help in the execution of government policy, formally or informally. Yet others champion specific causes inside and outside the House. All MPs are subject to pressure from lobby groups. Some however work closely with bodies such as charities or trade associations to promote their interests.
By using one or more of the means available, it is generally held that the majority of MPs make an identifiable contribution to the national political process. This role is however largely tailored to their own needs, capabilities and ambitions.
Work in the constituency —There is broad agreement that this aspect of MPs' work has increased immensely over the last 20 years. MPs visit their constituency about weekly and indeed many live there. Constituency work can be divided into two parts, the general and the particular.
General work— In general, MPs must maintain contact with a wide range of local bodies, both official and voluntary, to feel the pulse of issues affecting the constituency overall. This involves such activities as keeping in touch with the local authority and local councillors, giving talks to local societies and schools, visiting factories, and participating in civic events. Through this work Members can identify how national policies or issues impact on their own constituencies so that they can if appropriate contribute to debate on them. In at least some constituencies the MP is also seen as a quasi Civic Leader, alongside leading Councillors and other dignitaries.
Senior Salaries Review Body, Cm 4997-II, (2001).
IPSA state the following:
All MPs' staff employed after 7 May 2010 must have a relevant job description, as well as a contract and a salary within the relevant pay range. So why doesn't an MP have a Job Description?
There are a couple of issues to raise at this point:
Self Employed people don't have contracts of employment, neither do they receive a standard salary, pensions and expenses! Generally speaking, they quote from job to job.
One of the changes that I would like to see is MPs issued with Job Descriptions, Person Specifications and Contracts of Employment; within that contract of employment certain clauses should be the same as they are for other employed people - eg Gross Misconduct leading to dismissal. Gross Misconduct usually contains offences against the person, discriminatory behaviour, harassment and Theft, to name a few. Bringing the the service into disrepute is also one used. Fraud, generally speaking, comes under the category of Theft.
When one considers the basic salary, expenses and other avenues of income open to MPs, it is unacceptable that they be allowed to commit fraud against the public by accessing the public's money by said fraud and then still be allowed to keep their job when found out.
This 2-tier society must stop now. An MP is as important as a refuse collector; some would argue less. The laws affecting both classes of workers must be the same...and the laws surrounding any breaches of statutes or codes of conduct and contracts of employment must be equally upheld.
MPs are public servants...it's about time they ALL started conducting themselves as such and were made accountable for their actions to their electorate.
Drafting a Job Description and Person Specification for MPs
Would anyone with relevant experience like to be involved in drafting one up? I'm looking for a group of 3 people with managerial experience and one MP. Once completed, I'd be looking to submit it, as a collective piece of work, to the relevant authority.
Villayat 'Wolf' Sunkmanitu